MidATL/NEast Weather. January 2017

By: Pcroton , 3:38 PM GMT on January 06, 2017


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83. listenerVT
4:04 AM GMT on February 23, 2017
How's everyone doing? We got over a foot of snow last week and this week it's nearly all melted. I think we're down to 1-3" at this point, due to the warming days...brushing 50F in February!!?!
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82. originalLIT
9:48 PM GMT on February 16, 2017
My final total from the Feb> 9th storm here inStamford CT. was 10.5" or so. hard to be exact.
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81. NJTom
6:11 PM GMT on February 15, 2017
Several "Winter is Over" media stories floating around out there today. Either they're click bait, or the authors are recent migrants to this part of the country.
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80. mtwhitney
3:43 AM GMT on February 14, 2017
the shift from extreme warmth to heavy snow in nyc last wed. - thursday was very rare. In this ny times article, they point to 3 snow storms in close proximity to extreme warmth. The 1984 snow came before the extreme temps, and is not the same as what happened on thursday, where the snow came after the warm day. The dec 1984 was certainly historic, in that nyc hit 70 degrees on dec 29, as that time it was the only 70 degree reading in nyc between early dec and late january, this has been done several time since then. The post super bowl snow of 2014 is very similar to what happened on thursday, at the same time of the year, the extremes were a little bit less, the high temp was 57 instead of 62, snow fall was 8 inches instead of 9.5. the 1896 storm had a higher temperature, with only 5 inches of snow, it was in late november.

Zotty, i have heard that the 1888 blizzard followed a generally warm period, but there is no record i could find of extreme warmth in early - mid march, it did happen after a very wet period, and it started as rain. There is no snow storm in nyc history as intense, the march 1993 storm was similar, but not quite as extreme.

last week's storm was certainly a beautiful storm for snow lovers, and it continues a trend in this very snowy decade in nyc of having a big snow fall even in warmer winters, only the winter of 2012 did not have a heavy snow storm. I believe this may already be nyc's snowiest decade, record go back to 1869 in central park.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/nyregion/NYC-s chool-closings-winter-storm.html?action=click&cont entCollection=N.Y.%20%2F%20Region&module=RelatedCo verage®ion=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article
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79. listenerVT
12:11 AM GMT on February 14, 2017
So, looks like we got somewhere between 8" and 12" of snow, depending on where you set the ruler in the yard. We had some wind. I'm guessing 8-9" is new. Went out and shoveled after the plow came, then went over and shoveled out our elderly neighbour and brought her the mail, so she wouldn't be tempted to walk down to the road. The snow was light and fluffy, and the wind blew it off the evergreens before it could build up. The wind abated in the morning though and from about midmorning the snow stayed on the branches.







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78. listenerVT
4:00 AM GMT on February 13, 2017
Thinking of you, cChamp!

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77. listenerVT
12:11 AM GMT on February 11, 2017
So, P, here's an interesting situation I would appreciate your take on.

NWS says we're getting 6-10" from Sunday through Monday evening.

Fairbanks Museum guys (Steve Moleski and Mark Breen) say same but Monday night through Tuesday morning.

Which is more likely? [My DIL has a funeral to go to and it's most likely Monday in NH. She will be leaving her 2 young children to go, so it would be great to know whether she needs to leave Sunday and come back Monday night or leave Monday and come back Tuesday.]

Thanks, muchly!
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76. listenerVT
12:02 AM GMT on February 11, 2017
Everybody remember that tonight's the night for binoculars and telescopes! 💫🌒🔭

Full Moon, Eclipse (beginning 7:45pmET] and Comet (best at 10:30pm) tonight!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/sciencefair/20 17/02/07/penumbral-lunar-eclipse-snow-moon-comet/9 7593778/

We are overcast and expecting snow flurries here. =SIGH= I hope some of you can see it. Post photos!

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75. zotty
6:42 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
Quoting 70. mtwhitney:

i would love to know if nyc ever had a foot of snow after a 60 degree day, or even a 50 degree day, 8 inches, even just 5? I remember late november 1995 reaching 61 and then getting 3 inches of snow the next day, but this is the core of winter. love this blog and twitter feed, thanks. This is like denver, not the east coast.


Hi everyone! I guess the days of 1,000 posts for a big snowstorm are over. :(

MtWhitney- the Great Blizzard of 1888 featured very warm temperatures- I can't find if it was in the 50s or 60s- before plummeting to two feet of snow.
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74. originalLIT
4:55 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
7.5" of snow in Stamford Ct. as we approach noon. Maybe another inch or so to go in SW CT. So it was on the lower side of the guidance for us. However other areas of CT., mainly N.& NE of me by 30-40 miles got closer to 1 foot.
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73. goofyrider
3:46 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
So now 1-2 in., great source material for snowballs, snowmen and sleighs. Moisture avail = 0.7- 0.8 in. Be interesting to see how this ends.
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72. goofyrider
1:26 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
Everything coated say < 0.5 in now. Windy.
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71. rod2635
12:35 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
raining in buckets in philly when i woke early before 5am. then the precip heads northeast before the cold air can get here and do its magic. snowing now, but several inches that could have bee... will be someone else's big event, not ours.
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70. mtwhitney
12:50 AM GMT on February 09, 2017
i would love to know if nyc ever had a foot of snow after a 60 degree day, or even a 50 degree day, 8 inches, even just 5? I remember late november 1995 reaching 61 and then getting 3 inches of snow the next day, but this is the core of winter. love this blog and twitter feed, thanks. This is like denver, not the east coast.
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69. PhillySnow
12:15 AM GMT on February 09, 2017
We've a possibility of 5 - 9". Falling in a very short time! I'm looking forward to it, whatever it is. And to hearing how others are faring. Good luck, everyone!
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68. jerseycityjoan
9:57 PM GMT on February 08, 2017
We are nation full of weather advisories right now.

The legend below the top map -- the NOAA Advisory map -- lists 62 separate items. I've never seen so many colors and so many items before.

Wow. Usually there's less than half of that, I think. And the kicker is, at least 1/2 half of the counties on the map are not colored in at all, so nothing's happening there!

PCroton's Twitter feed is very busy too. I have it up now and he's doing a great job on this storm. As he just said: "This one isn't screwing around this evening. Very rapid development." and "at this stage - obs easily support the highest forecast ranges." I highly recommend going over to check it out:

https://twitter.com/crankywxguy
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67. NJTom
5:13 PM GMT on February 08, 2017
Haven't seen so many people walking outside at lunchtime with smiles on their faces since last spring. In a way it's so cruel to do this to us before we're hurled back into the dungeon. Ah well, won't be that long now. Tick, tick, tick.
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66. listenerVT
4:44 AM GMT on February 08, 2017
We got 6" on top of 1"+light crust, so 7" at the moment. But WHOOOOO it's been blowing around! Lights blinked once. awaiting some ice pellets, and expecting rain and 40's tomorrow. This is April, right? ;-)
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65. Pcroton
1:02 AM GMT on February 08, 2017
Hey F1 !!! Thanks.

Yeah, February has been taking this whole "up and down" and "variable storm track" thing about 1,000 times further than I intended when I mentioned it as a general pattern to anticipate. Unreal!


Listener: Burlington NWS has some quirky folks in that office to be sure. LOL at that.




The rest: Nice MIDATL to S/C New England storm coming Thursday. Odd to say it but this is the first decent central/eastern PA hit of the year I think.

Graphics are up on my twitter feed.
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64. TheF1Man
12:31 AM GMT on February 08, 2017
Hey P, been a while since I posted here. I check your twitter on the daily, the no-nonsense approach is really appreciated - I hope you'll keep it going. Saw lightening on the drive home tonight during a brief downpour, don't see that too often in winter!

If i had a dollar for every snow map I saw today, I'd be able to retire. Oh yes, 17" in south-central NJ is definitely going to verify! Amusing, but welcome to the internet right?

Hope everyone enjoys tracking this one.
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63. listenerVT
12:25 AM GMT on February 08, 2017
Someone posted on the National Weather Service (Burlington VT) Facebook page:

"Can we PLEASE get a good snowstorm for the Eastern Adirondacks soon!!! Geesh!!!!! I mean a record breaking snow event!! Paralyzing the whole N East!!! Please!!!"

US National Weather Service Burlington VT replied:


So, I commented:
"You may need to make your appeal to Mother Nature. Of course, she's not very pleased wth humans these days. Have you tried doing a snow dance? Thursday is Snowflake Bentley's Birthday. I suggest throwing a party. Couldn't hurt!"
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62. jerseycityjoan
11:06 PM GMT on February 07, 2017
Snow on its way for many of us tomorrow night into Thursday.

I hope we seem some activity here, too.

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61. listenerVT
6:54 AM GMT on February 03, 2017
Thanks, P. Great photos! I really like the look of that snow path.

We picked up a couple inches of snow this evening. We'll take whatever we can get. As you noted, Burlington, and the whole area, has had it hard this season. We love our snow and need the precip.

As usual, I spent Candlemas (aka Groundhog Day) hand-dipping candles.

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60. Pcroton
10:27 PM GMT on February 01, 2017
Good Evening. Here's a look at January 2017 across the region. Very warm - winner: Burlington VT. Generally wet across the region as you'll note. Snowfall not too great. MidATL/I95 generally on target. Interior really REALLY lacking. Winner? Providence Rhode Island. Other things you'll note as you look it over.




Had about 3.5" of snow for our cumulative light event (you'll get it, if you've been following twitter)







Not much to discuss for this week. Minor event for southern Virginia - North Carolina at the end of the week with some light snow possible across our zonal front.

Sunday-Monday still looks to be a fast mover, nothing there to throw on the breaks, and some form of a light to moderate rain/snow (depending on latitude) event drives through the region.

Then more warmth, rainfall cutter - with initial interior snows in about a week - before mix and rain - and some question if the northern most sections change over or if the system hits a northern limit then slips east - as some have done this year so far.

All in all - nothing headline to note - and it does not appear we'll be seeing anything overly unusual the next couple weeks. Ya know where to find me and the daily & hourly updates. https://twitter.com/crankywxguy
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59. NJTom
7:59 PM GMT on February 01, 2017
A frequent but not constant play this winter: mild midweek, frigid weekend. Repeat the pattern next week from the looks of it. Nice long walk in store this evening, at least.

Is this an artifact of a bygone era or do doctors still take Wednesdays off? If so, they really hit the jackpot this winter!
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58. originalLIT
3:39 PM GMT on February 01, 2017
Got about 2" here in Stamford CT. About as expected.
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57. NJTom
3:59 PM GMT on January 31, 2017
We're due for about an inch, maybe a little more. At that volume, and In a state where some guys get $5 per foot (distance, not depth) to clear a driveway or private street, you can bet our mighty defensive armada is gearing up for a long night of lucrative battle with the Arctic invasion. Thousands of municipal trucks are already belching diesel fumes in their hangers, loaded with acres of unused salt. Tens of thousands of independent pickup owners are testing their yellow emergency lights and winches, a savage gleam in their eyes. Hundreds of thousands of day laborers are lining up at the usual mobilization points, gear in hand. With so little snow this year, you can bet we're in for an overnight symphony of roaring engines accompanied by plow blades and shovels scraping the same patch of cleaned ground over and over again until dawn (which, by the way, is coming earlier and earlier - have you noticed???)
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56. listenerVT
3:03 AM GMT on January 31, 2017
Any snow is crusted over into ice here now. Bleh.
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55. tlawson48
4:56 PM GMT on January 30, 2017
I too have backed off on the blogs, comments, etc. I check P's twitter feed several times a day, but I just don't have the energy to argue with some of the idiots on the wunderground blogs anymore. Reality will always bitch slap anyone trying to create their own alternative universe. ALWAYS. As such, I no longer feel the need to talk to a brick wall.
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54. DCsnowstorm
3:45 PM GMT on January 30, 2017
"yyyyaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnnn" Oh, hey everybody! Did someone say snow chances for the DC area.....???? Been asleep for the last 2 months!! Nothing to get up for. But..... I'm hearing stirrings about this weekend. We are due and I just washed my cars.... So get the bread and milk 'cause... IT'S ON!
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53. listenerVT
11:16 PM GMT on January 27, 2017
Quoting 52. PhillySnow:

Thanks for sharing the link, Listener. I saw all the "alt" science handles on twitter, which I love. There are also ones for government agencies. Hard to keep a good country down.


The country is wide awake right now! Ha! My PhD son knows some of the AltScientists behind the sites. Scientists are great at networking. :-D

We got another 2" of snow overnight to sweeten things up! May get another 2" tonight. It's hard ice underneath, so bears caution. But, we'll take it.
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52. PhillySnow
7:53 PM GMT on January 27, 2017
Quoting 49. listenerVT:

I can't post on Twitter, so I hope you'll keep this venue open. I don't mind popping over there for the specifics.

But here's a little Twitter gift. It's a list of Alternative Science sites. What a great bunch of bright and creative minds to do this! Best of all, they are now networking as never before. LOL!

Link
Thanks for sharing the link, Listener. I saw all the "alt" science handles on twitter, which I love. There are also ones for government agencies. Hard to keep a good country down.
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51. Pcroton
4:18 PM GMT on January 27, 2017
Hi LT. Ended up with 3.25" of rain out here. Just a constant fire hose. Pretty consistent winds in the 40s, a couple gusts in the 50s but no big deal for out here. Couple times a month it happens.

Well, not too much yet on the winter front. Some good strong snow squalls this weekend in our western and northern zones, some will make it as far as NEPA/NWNJ. Then the clippers, of whose trackings we wont quite know, until the weekend boundaries bottom out, revert a little north, then settle in.

Clipper drops off the MIDATL coast? Could redevelop and bring some modest snows. Just tracks through New England? drier - less snow - and no indication the Gulf of Maine has it in her to redevelop them.

Late 1st week February could be a large interior storm - upper midwest->great Lakes. Then we'll see what comes after that one for our midATL/NEast coastal winter storm potential.

Our pattern shift will wrap up by the Feb 12-14th period I'd think - and by the time the next winter/cold supportive oscillation returned it'd likely be March - with a re-established dominant warm background state (as we've seen throughout the past 22 months) - and as you know that greatly reduces any significant supportable winter discussion.
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50. originalLIT
6:31 PM GMT on January 26, 2017
Nice that you posted here! To add to your precip. totals for the last event:Stamford , ZERO! -- No , just kidding! , 1.21" LOL!
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49. listenerVT
3:28 AM GMT on January 26, 2017
I can't post on Twitter, so I hope you'll keep this venue open. I don't mind popping over there for the specifics.

But here's a little Twitter gift. It's a list of Alternative Science sites. What a great bunch of bright and creative minds to do this! Best of all, they are now networking as never before. LOL!

Link
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48. Pcroton
9:41 PM GMT on January 25, 2017
Quoting 45. PhillySnow:

Thanks for the summary, P. I still like the blog format better than twitter, although I follow you there also.

It's all wish-casting for me here. Warm and rainy when there's any precip. Good to know the cold snap will (should) last a couple of weeks - perhaps there will be some snow in there. I'd welcome any little bit or bits that come.



Twitter sucks, I know it, but these blogs suck more in terms of getting the message out, interaction of more weather savvy folks (Actually able to discuss with established meteorologists, NWS, SPC, TV, News, you name it!).

And, twitter way wayyyyy easier to quickly post/host the graphics - whereas on these blogs - hosting images remotely is time consuming & can fail & not upload or post. And these blogs themselves how many times do you post a message and it just doesn't appear, sometimes never appears!? Impossible to do that time and again, and of course, I do use a lot of free time analyzing the weather - and the more I can offer that to - the better - and on twitter, thousands read hourly. On wunderblogs, dozens, and, many have left for the same reasons I did.

Wrong analogy, but "cost benefit" to me, it's like for every penny I spend on twitter, I'd spend a thousand bucks here. And on twitter, I get a thousand bucks back, and on here I get a penny in return, sometimes, if it posts.

So, it is what it is, but we'll continue how we are for now.


As to twitter sucking, some may have noticed I do attract flies, cause I won't just buy into the worst case scenario any given time. It upsets people and they descend upon me for it. But worse recently is a certain private meteorologist taking exception to how I do things, how i give it away for free, how it's far more popular than his "paid services" and was behind my back taking pot shots and telling people not to follow me. So I got in a bit of a dust up with this guy - and that kind of thing is just ludicrous.

So believe me, I see it, and you all remember my rantings about twitter meteorologists, twitter winter weather weenies, and the absolute absurdity of the arguments and posts on there. I don't like it but the PLATFORM, and the GOOD people who you interact with, and the GOOD people who follow and discuss the weather - well, can't beat it. So, I really had no choice but to dance with the devil and join the dark side.

As we know, Zach Labe made that choice well before I did, as did Sully, and others, and they were right to do so. They destroyed these blogs with the over moderation and the re-launching, re-branding, and new software and look. They know it. We know it. And the community really fell into decay system wide. It happens, it's the law of the online community land, and no one site is immune. This place, my blog included, had it's funeral years ago.

I don't like leaving "you guys" as "stragglers" behind, but I obviously cannot function on a daily basis on this medium, and it's very difficult to do the twitter thing, then come and re-post all that, here as well, retype, rethink, communicate. It then doubles the burden, and if I "had" to do that, then I'd do neither.

Hey, some day, let's face facts, I too shall mothball this side bar, but for now... we keep on plugging along.

I shall leave the bread crumbs here - but the main course is on twitter - as annoying as how the platform spits out information - there are some ways to cope with that - and I've shown those ways. Anyone and everyone is welcome to follow or not to follow.

This blog shall remain open unless it was seemed fit to close it out of disuse.

Enjoy.....
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47. Pcroton
9:33 PM GMT on January 25, 2017
Evening. I'll check in from time to time for the long range looks, but from a daily - and especially a play by play of the storms - please check in on my twitter feed.

So, we've been immersed in an absolute torching this January. This is not what I had anticipated. I figured Dec-Jan-Feb-Mar would feature many ups and downs, and we have had that, and also a highly variable non-repetitive storm track, and we have also had that - however - I thought we'd be talking about 90 day or 120 day final mean anomalies pretty close to neutral (be it negative one to plus one) once we were all said and done. Seems rather apparent that's going to be an impossibility.





I have mentioned this upcoming pattern shift as wintry supportive - and it'll be just that - but from a thermal standpoint not really at all headline stuff. Ups and Downs and quite honestly once the next 2 weeks has completed - we may post a 14-day positive anomaly even with a few cold days and snow events peppered in.

I've commented a lot on what could occur and quite honestly it wasn't a bad stab at all (of course, still must play out, and all of that). Figured on the lead in, a coastal was possible, then during the pattern itself, many clipper systems, and then on the retreat of the pattern another coastal. And quite honestly that's exactly what models are showing an interest in.

However, it seems our positive stream flow is just going to prevent the first coastal from hitting. Maybe it adjusts a little up the coast - they tend to do that - but I think it may be time to start shying away from the idea. The clippers seem more than likely - and we know how sometimes one can slow near the coast, develop, and throw some added bonuses to the west. We shall see. The real deal seems to have a real shot however at being a legitimate east coast snow storm. As we near, we'll watch, wonder, evaluate, and chase.




Incoming tonight into tomorrow is the lead of the pattern shift. Rain showers followed by heavy snow showers and squalls for the far interior MIDATL, and western arc of the North East, WPA-WNY-NNY-NVT-NNH.




Please see my twitter feed for the particulars but if traveling later of Thursday across that western-northern arc as I like to call it - could find yourself in a bit of a quick bind as it could prove to hit quickly and heavily.







I created this back on January 18th, but was discussing this potential even before, utilizing some unique teleconnections, and observations of our weather oscillation between our ups and downs, and it's made sense from the start, still does, but as said seems the lead in may flunk out too far S&E.






I tallied some of our prior event's reports.


MT HOLLY NWS (and/or w/Upton Combined)






UPTON NWS:






TAUNTON NWS:





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46. listenerVT
12:12 AM GMT on January 25, 2017
Well, all we got was about 1/2-3/4" of ice and slush. Bah!









And the treasure of the day, Bohemian Waxwings!
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45. PhillySnow
12:39 PM GMT on January 24, 2017
Thanks for the summary, P. I still like the blog format better than twitter, although I follow you there also.

It's all wish-casting for me here. Warm and rainy when there's any precip. Good to know the cold snap will (should) last a couple of weeks - perhaps there will be some snow in there. I'd welcome any little bit or bits that come.
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44. listenerVT
4:39 AM GMT on January 23, 2017
Thanks, P. I am not on Twitter anymore, so can't post there, but I did go over and peruse your graphics. It looks like I'm going to get something this time, which is good since we're long overdue. As things get more clear, I'd be grateful for clarity around how much ice potential there is for NW VT. At the moment, we're hearing it'll mostly be Central / NE VT that see ice. I have the impression that I'll be getting some heavy wet snow, and being on the Western slopes of the Greens, that I'll get the wind (40mph?).

I'd love to see some normal temps around here for a month. We are sorely in need of a week or, better, two of -20'sF!!
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43. Pcroton
4:58 AM GMT on January 22, 2017
Been a straight torch. By Jan 27-28 the pattern shift is probably going to end up bringing us back to near norms. Which will then afford some winter storm potential and activity. By mid-February, 10th or so onward, we will warm back above norms yet again. Very little to stop the up and down process and we're going to start going back well above norms for longer stretches by late winter into Spring and Summer. As to any wishcasting of cold, beware "polar vortex" hyperbole. It's an annual process that the vortex breaks down, and this year it never got going until late, has always been pushed around and displaced, and never built up much of a stolen cold air stash, and the arctic has been straight fire compared to norms. Therefore, once the vortex breaks down and the dam bursts, there won't be much behind it except to send some typical to less-than-typical late winter early spring cold snaps.






Strong storm coming, heavy rain, coastal high winds and surf, interior ice, snow mix, rain, snow, ice, mix, rain back and forths. If you want the details you know where to find them.
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42. NJTom
8:27 PM GMT on January 20, 2017
Long range out to next Sunday (the 29th) doesn't show any of the scorcher temps that were originally forecast for earlier in the week. Nor does it show the late week plunge into Yukon territory that some others were hinting at. All in all maybe 4-6 degrees above average, give or take, through next Thursday; 1-3 degrees above for next weekend unless the numbers are revised downward. The jury seems to be debating what comes after that. Some hope-casting spotted out there for a weakened polar vortex but it's laced with caveats and maybes. Obviously, it will get cold again. Even last year's mild February was punctuated by that brutal -25 degree departure on Valentine's weekend. Whatever happens, on clear days it is now light until well after 5:00 p.m. We're gaining over a minute and a half each day and will hit two minutes by the end of the month. Old Man Winter, you still hold the winning hand, but the clock is now ticking.
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41. tlawson48
4:57 PM GMT on January 20, 2017
Next Monday into Tuesday looks to be an "underpants soaker", meaning: its pouring rain and blowing sideways at 50 mph, so everyone gets soaked right through their underpants walking into work because everyone wears a raincoat, but no one wears rain pants.
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40. tlawson48
8:05 PM GMT on January 18, 2017
Still snowing at the coast, as it has been since about 0715 this morning.
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39. tlawson48
4:48 PM GMT on January 18, 2017
Secondary a flop, but the coastal front kicked in way stronger than expected. After trimming down totals overnight, NWS Gray had to bump them back up as it keeps on snow right here on the coast. Freezing fog too, which is always fun.
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38. Pcroton
4:26 PM GMT on January 18, 2017
Quoting 35. listenerVT:

1"

:-(


Was thinking 3" for you, but the system never came together. Coastal secondary element a complete flop. However, 3" a way better guess than that 6" nonsense they had floating around for you!

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37. Pcroton
4:26 PM GMT on January 18, 2017
Hi folks, worth a little visit. Pattern shift on the way to approximately a two week wintry supportive setup.

January 24th-25th features a very strong inland storm that translates to the coast. No, not that kind of redevelopment, there is no "swing cold to the coasts and make it snow" to be had with this event. So ignore calls otherwise. Perhaps some very interior N&W portions could conceivably end briefly as snow but no big deal. The real situation here is that this system is a pattern changing event. It's the leading edge of the clash.



This has been in the conversation, provided you've been following my twitter account, for a couple weeks now. Solid signal then, solid unwavering signal now. What comes after this shift? Probably some coastal mischief and some clipper mischief. First storm potentially near New Years Eve/Day. Then the pattern sulks in and we go clipper-ish. Then the pattern retreat would probably feature another coastal potential late first week in February.

There are problems with suggesting just HOW perfectly coastal or not this is. Trof too far east, well, glancing SE/MIDATL blow and gone. Perfection, well, coastal winter storms. Bit too amped? Maybe the pattern doesn't SLAM in behind the Jan 24/25th system? Then coastal crap storm as we know with far interior heavy snows.

It's way too early to care, but the potential is clearly there...




Afterwards it's going to warm again. This winter - going back to Spring 2016 discussions - was always going to be a back and forth up and down - NEVER locking anything in - highly variable & interchangeable storm tracking - winter season. People are _STILL_ in denial about this even as we enter the latter stages of winter. Ignore them. One should always ignore them anyway.

Anyways, the pattern is coming, but what precisely it delivers who can say? I'd guess two coastals and a clipper - which could make it quite the noteworthy stretch of weather. But all the same the two coastals could be misfits - and then we just end up with some run of the mill wintry weather - GET THIS - THIS WILL AMAZE AND ASTOUND YOU - wintry weather while still in the deeper part of winter. BREAKING HEADLINE NEWS I know! But, beware, that is coming to a twitter feed near you - complete with "we warned you of this eons ago" even though they didn't and have yet to actually catch on (which is kind of sad, since winter hype is their go-to approach method, and they're not discussing it).

ANyways, as always, a little benchmark sanity for specifics. Pattern first, then details. Enough with the "BUT I MUST KNOW IS FEBRUARY FIFTH A BIG SNOW DAY OR NOT? LIKE 22.5" IN MANHATTAN RITE!" (ugh...seriously.. STFU a-holes)






We'll see where it trends; there will be a sudden uptick in purple maps and snow map postings by the usual jackasses in a few days, so prepare to wade through the nonsense. WE'll try to pick out what makes sense, for when, and for whom as we close in.


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36. NJTom
3:37 PM GMT on January 18, 2017
Still in the mid-30s here. Thaws in this neck of the woods are invariably a day or two later than forecast. (The polar vortex however, is always on time.)

The winter sentence (oops, I meant season, Freudian slip) reaches the halfway mark on Sunday, according to the degree days chart from my furnace guy. The pages of my gardening catalogs and magazines are dog-eared and tattered by now, but they should hold out until spring paroles me from house arrest!
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35. listenerVT
8:25 AM GMT on January 18, 2017
1"

:-(
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34. listenerVT
2:50 AM GMT on January 18, 2017
The snow and mixed precip arrived here around 7pm instead of 4pm and is now expected to last until about 10am instead of 1pm. Stay tuned.
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33. listenerVT
2:49 AM GMT on January 18, 2017
Quoting 32. tlawson48:

Ankle breaking ruts confirmed. Both the 2 year old and the 4 year old decided to play in the frozen ruts walking into daycare this morning. Both fell down. Neither one cried, so that's a bonus......


Yikes! I once stepped off a bus onto an ankle breaking frozen rut and twisted the ankle badly. Not fun!
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