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MidATL/NEast Weather. January 2017

By: Pcroton , 3:38 PM GMT on January 06, 2017


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105. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
12:17 PM GMT on March 10, 2017
Pcroton has created a new entry.
104. MaxWeather
2:47 PM GMT on March 09, 2017
Hey guys that's a good idea for a closed Facebook group.

Btw I'm following closely this storm tomorrow but what really has bitting my nails is the storm coming early next week
I'm seeing some model runs and omg!!!
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103. Pcroton
1:07 PM GMT on March 09, 2017
Folks you can access your WU mail from this link.
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102. Pcroton
1:04 PM GMT on March 09, 2017
Hey Folks. Had no idea this was all going on. I'll reboot the blog in the next day or so when I have time to help facilitate the moving on with the relevant information you've all discussed up until now.

As many know, but some may not, I'm exclusively on twitter.

https://twitter.com/crankywxguy

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Simply haven't had the ability to do both - nor even share tidbits here. Just not feasible for me.
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101. rod2635
11:39 AM GMT on March 09, 2017
Quoting 100. listenerVT:

❄️⭐️❄️ It's official folks!! ❄️⭐️❄️

Our new Weather Blog is now operational on Facebook!!

But it's a Secret Group, meaning it is only open by invitation, and no one can see the group or post on the group unless they are a member. That will mean no trolls!! I am happy to send an invitation to any weather enthusiast who has posted here on Pcroton's "Cranky" blog, Sully's blog or Blizz's blog, over the years (or fits in with same). I will need your FB name or email address to offer the invitation. You may send it to my WU Mail for now, and I'll be checking daily. Please spread the word!!




Never having used the WU Mail feature, can you give me a few short steps as to how to send my info to you so I might join the group? Not the most tech savvy person.
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100. listenerVT
5:59 AM GMT on March 09, 2017
❄️⭐️❄️ It's official folks!! ❄️⭐️❄️

Our new Weather Blog is now operational on Facebook!!

But it's a Secret Group, meaning it is only open by invitation, and no one can see the group or post on the group unless they are a member. That will mean no trolls!! I am happy to send an invitation to any weather enthusiast who has posted here on Pcroton's "Cranky" blog, Sully's blog or Blizz's blog, over the years (or fits in with same). I will need your FB name or email address to offer the invitation. You may send it to my WU Mail for now, and I'll be checking daily. Please spread the word!!

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99. listenerVT
5:54 AM GMT on March 09, 2017
Thanks, VTUPSer!
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98. VTUPSer
9:02 PM GMT on March 08, 2017
Here is the WU link about blogs.
http://help.wunderground.com/knowledgebase/articl es/1143553-wu-feature-and-product-updates
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97. VTUPSer
9:01 PM GMT on March 08, 2017
Looks like April 3rd is the cut off for the Blogs/WU email.
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96. listenerVT
6:18 AM GMT on March 08, 2017
OKAY, CAMPERS!

I'm creating a SECRET Facebook group (meaning ONLY members can see it and post in it). I am happy to add anyone to the group, but I need your Facebook name OR your email address, to do so. Please message me on WU Mail and I'll send you the name of the group, and include you. I'll try to do this quickly, before this blog disappears. (Is there a drop dead date for the blogs?)

Pcroton! Once you send me your FB name or email address, I will include you in the group AND make it possible for you to add people to the group as well, if you like.

So, going forward, there would still be data on Twitter and conversation plus photos and so on, on Facebook. How does that sound?
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95. NJTom
2:11 PM GMT on March 07, 2017
I'm really going to miss the blogs; they have become such a welcome routine and pleasurable part of my day.

The modern world continues to strip away any activity that requires an attention span, it seems.

And where else can I continue to explore in depth the mystery of why weekends in New Jersey are so often 15-20 degrees below average temp and workweeks are always tropical??? Now I'll never unearth the answer!

Farewell and good luck to all in finding a new source.
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94. rod2635
11:38 AM GMT on March 07, 2017
Quoting 92. listenerVT:

Does anyone have a link to the announcement? I never saw it. Very sad about the blogs.


Do like your idea about a platform to continue the discussion, share the weather. It is sad about the blogs. Whatever powers that be seem to fail to recognize that this is a community of long standing. Remove the community and they may find that what's left is not enough to support what they will offer. I'm not tech savvy but would be agreeable to supporting something that focuses on our neck of the woods, ie mid atlantic to new England.
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93. VTUPSer
11:23 AM GMT on March 07, 2017
Bummer no more WU supported blogs. ListernerVT I'd like to see a closed FB page or a blog page of some sort. I do follow CrahnkyWX on Twitter but my problem is I don't understand the maps other than the basics so I like reading text with the maps/graphs.
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92. listenerVT
4:55 AM GMT on March 07, 2017
Does anyone have a link to the announcement? I never saw it. Very sad about the blogs.
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91. listenerVT
4:53 AM GMT on March 07, 2017
Is there a place we could go for ease of discussion? Maybe start a Cranky Weather Facebook Group?? It could be a closed group, so we don't have to deal with trolls. Or would folks prefer a Blogger style blog? The latter is more independent, while the former would permit photos, graphs and whatnot.

I sure don't want to no longer be able to converse about the weather with you all!

Proton, LT, Cchamp, lawson and all...maybe even Sully.

Went to Nantucket over the weekend and was treated to a Snowy Owl Safari our on Great Point! Sweet! It was 22F and the wind was blowing 25-35mph. So we were mostly in a Landrover with somewhat deflated tires, to be able to handle the sand. Amazing!

7 sightings of at least 3 different Snowy Owls. We also saw Long-Tail Ducks, Seals and more. Wonderful experience!









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90. MaxWeather
6:39 AM GMT on March 06, 2017
Hey there Jersey guy!
I remember those good winter weather discussions we used to have although I don't keep in much contact with anyone I'm still stuck to weather just as bad.
I chat with LT about all kinds of weather events up to this day

Blogs era coming to an end
Where a you taking things to? Is there a way to contact you? You can always wumail if you'd like while it still works

Happy Monday!
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89. rod2635
11:44 AM GMT on March 04, 2017
So P, with the announcement that Wunderground is apparently going to cease hosting member blogs, what does this mean for your blog and all the good info you have on the twitter access portal. Will you be continuing there? I also like the links you've established to all the NWS offices and other sites. Shame to see that disappear. Very efficient 'library' all in one place.
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88. NJTom
6:56 PM GMT on March 01, 2017
According to my local forecast for Saturday into Sunday, we'll be flirting with record lows for the date. Who would have thought the coldest night of the winter comes in March? And that's with no snow pack in the region and no ice on the Great Lakes. Early buds and shoots are destined for annihilation; I'm destined for three days of even greater crankiness.
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87. tlawson48
5:57 PM GMT on March 01, 2017
A little check in here, its been too long. I got 42" of snow in nine days, ending the 16th of Feb. Settled snow depth that morning was a little over two feet. Last night (12 days later), I have none: its all grass, the frost is out and the ground is dry. I was able to walk to the trash cans last night in my socks and they were still dry when I got back to the house.
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86. Gaara
5:50 PM GMT on March 01, 2017
RIP member blogs.
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85. listenerVT
1:20 AM GMT on February 26, 2017
February Thunderstorm in NW VT!! It hit 63F today.

The bays of Lake Champlain iced out! Whaaaaa?!!

Go to: Link
Scroll down and click on the live cam to see Mallett's Bay.

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84. NJTom
8:32 PM GMT on February 24, 2017
76 degrees today, which is about 30 over the average of 45 for this date. Certainly better than 30 below the norm, but not if it keeps up and the trees and shrubs start to bud out.

As this Chesapeakean winter runs down the clock, I wonder how the "almanacs" will tally it into their self-touted winter forecast accuracy rate of 80%? When you predict Arctic Armageddon along the I-95 corridor (with a half-hearted meh for the rest of the country) each year, the blatant swings and misses add up over time. Oh well, they'll be back late next summer, as will Joe B with his annual vow, "Its gonna be REALLY cold this winter folks, and it's gonna be EVEN COLDER next winter!"
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83. listenerVT
4:04 AM GMT on February 23, 2017
How's everyone doing? We got over a foot of snow last week and this week it's nearly all melted. I think we're down to 1-3" at this point, due to the warming days...brushing 50F in February!!?!
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82. originalLIT
9:48 PM GMT on February 16, 2017
My final total from the Feb> 9th storm here inStamford CT. was 10.5" or so. hard to be exact.
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81. NJTom
6:11 PM GMT on February 15, 2017
Several "Winter is Over" media stories floating around out there today. Either they're click bait, or the authors are recent migrants to this part of the country.
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80. mtwhitney
3:43 AM GMT on February 14, 2017
the shift from extreme warmth to heavy snow in nyc last wed. - thursday was very rare. In this ny times article, they point to 3 snow storms in close proximity to extreme warmth. The 1984 snow came before the extreme temps, and is not the same as what happened on thursday, where the snow came after the warm day. The dec 1984 was certainly historic, in that nyc hit 70 degrees on dec 29, as that time it was the only 70 degree reading in nyc between early dec and late january, this has been done several time since then. The post super bowl snow of 2014 is very similar to what happened on thursday, at the same time of the year, the extremes were a little bit less, the high temp was 57 instead of 62, snow fall was 8 inches instead of 9.5. the 1896 storm had a higher temperature, with only 5 inches of snow, it was in late november.

Zotty, i have heard that the 1888 blizzard followed a generally warm period, but there is no record i could find of extreme warmth in early - mid march, it did happen after a very wet period, and it started as rain. There is no snow storm in nyc history as intense, the march 1993 storm was similar, but not quite as extreme.

last week's storm was certainly a beautiful storm for snow lovers, and it continues a trend in this very snowy decade in nyc of having a big snow fall even in warmer winters, only the winter of 2012 did not have a heavy snow storm. I believe this may already be nyc's snowiest decade, record go back to 1869 in central park.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/nyregion/NYC-s chool-closings-winter-storm.html?action=click&cont entCollection=N.Y.%20%2F%20Region&module=RelatedCo verage®ion=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article
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79. listenerVT
12:11 AM GMT on February 14, 2017
So, looks like we got somewhere between 8" and 12" of snow, depending on where you set the ruler in the yard. We had some wind. I'm guessing 8-9" is new. Went out and shoveled after the plow came, then went over and shoveled out our elderly neighbour and brought her the mail, so she wouldn't be tempted to walk down to the road. The snow was light and fluffy, and the wind blew it off the evergreens before it could build up. The wind abated in the morning though and from about midmorning the snow stayed on the branches.







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78. listenerVT
4:00 AM GMT on February 13, 2017
Thinking of you, cChamp!

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77. listenerVT
12:11 AM GMT on February 11, 2017
So, P, here's an interesting situation I would appreciate your take on.

NWS says we're getting 6-10" from Sunday through Monday evening.

Fairbanks Museum guys (Steve Moleski and Mark Breen) say same but Monday night through Tuesday morning.

Which is more likely? [My DIL has a funeral to go to and it's most likely Monday in NH. She will be leaving her 2 young children to go, so it would be great to know whether she needs to leave Sunday and come back Monday night or leave Monday and come back Tuesday.]

Thanks, muchly!
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76. listenerVT
12:02 AM GMT on February 11, 2017
Everybody remember that tonight's the night for binoculars and telescopes! 💫🌒🔭

Full Moon, Eclipse (beginning 7:45pmET] and Comet (best at 10:30pm) tonight!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/sciencefair/20 17/02/07/penumbral-lunar-eclipse-snow-moon-comet/9 7593778/

We are overcast and expecting snow flurries here. =SIGH= I hope some of you can see it. Post photos!

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75. zotty
6:42 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
Quoting 70. mtwhitney:

i would love to know if nyc ever had a foot of snow after a 60 degree day, or even a 50 degree day, 8 inches, even just 5? I remember late november 1995 reaching 61 and then getting 3 inches of snow the next day, but this is the core of winter. love this blog and twitter feed, thanks. This is like denver, not the east coast.


Hi everyone! I guess the days of 1,000 posts for a big snowstorm are over. :(

MtWhitney- the Great Blizzard of 1888 featured very warm temperatures- I can't find if it was in the 50s or 60s- before plummeting to two feet of snow.
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74. originalLIT
4:55 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
7.5" of snow in Stamford Ct. as we approach noon. Maybe another inch or so to go in SW CT. So it was on the lower side of the guidance for us. However other areas of CT., mainly N.& NE of me by 30-40 miles got closer to 1 foot.
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73. goofyrider
3:46 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
So now 1-2 in., great source material for snowballs, snowmen and sleighs. Moisture avail = 0.7- 0.8 in. Be interesting to see how this ends.
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72. goofyrider
1:26 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
Everything coated say < 0.5 in now. Windy.
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71. rod2635
12:35 PM GMT on February 09, 2017
raining in buckets in philly when i woke early before 5am. then the precip heads northeast before the cold air can get here and do its magic. snowing now, but several inches that could have bee... will be someone else's big event, not ours.
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70. mtwhitney
12:50 AM GMT on February 09, 2017
i would love to know if nyc ever had a foot of snow after a 60 degree day, or even a 50 degree day, 8 inches, even just 5? I remember late november 1995 reaching 61 and then getting 3 inches of snow the next day, but this is the core of winter. love this blog and twitter feed, thanks. This is like denver, not the east coast.
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69. PhillySnow
12:15 AM GMT on February 09, 2017
We've a possibility of 5 - 9". Falling in a very short time! I'm looking forward to it, whatever it is. And to hearing how others are faring. Good luck, everyone!
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68. jerseycityjoan
9:57 PM GMT on February 08, 2017
We are nation full of weather advisories right now.

The legend below the top map -- the NOAA Advisory map -- lists 62 separate items. I've never seen so many colors and so many items before.

Wow. Usually there's less than half of that, I think. And the kicker is, at least 1/2 half of the counties on the map are not colored in at all, so nothing's happening there!

PCroton's Twitter feed is very busy too. I have it up now and he's doing a great job on this storm. As he just said: "This one isn't screwing around this evening. Very rapid development." and "at this stage - obs easily support the highest forecast ranges." I highly recommend going over to check it out:

https://twitter.com/crankywxguy
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67. NJTom
5:13 PM GMT on February 08, 2017
Haven't seen so many people walking outside at lunchtime with smiles on their faces since last spring. In a way it's so cruel to do this to us before we're hurled back into the dungeon. Ah well, won't be that long now. Tick, tick, tick.
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66. listenerVT
4:44 AM GMT on February 08, 2017
We got 6" on top of 1"+light crust, so 7" at the moment. But WHOOOOO it's been blowing around! Lights blinked once. awaiting some ice pellets, and expecting rain and 40's tomorrow. This is April, right? ;-)
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65. Pcroton
1:02 AM GMT on February 08, 2017
Hey F1 !!! Thanks.

Yeah, February has been taking this whole "up and down" and "variable storm track" thing about 1,000 times further than I intended when I mentioned it as a general pattern to anticipate. Unreal!


Listener: Burlington NWS has some quirky folks in that office to be sure. LOL at that.




The rest: Nice MIDATL to S/C New England storm coming Thursday. Odd to say it but this is the first decent central/eastern PA hit of the year I think.

Graphics are up on my twitter feed.
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64. TheF1Man
12:31 AM GMT on February 08, 2017
Hey P, been a while since I posted here. I check your twitter on the daily, the no-nonsense approach is really appreciated - I hope you'll keep it going. Saw lightening on the drive home tonight during a brief downpour, don't see that too often in winter!

If i had a dollar for every snow map I saw today, I'd be able to retire. Oh yes, 17" in south-central NJ is definitely going to verify! Amusing, but welcome to the internet right?

Hope everyone enjoys tracking this one.
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63. listenerVT
12:25 AM GMT on February 08, 2017
Someone posted on the National Weather Service (Burlington VT) Facebook page:

"Can we PLEASE get a good snowstorm for the Eastern Adirondacks soon!!! Geesh!!!!! I mean a record breaking snow event!! Paralyzing the whole N East!!! Please!!!"

US National Weather Service Burlington VT replied:


So, I commented:
"You may need to make your appeal to Mother Nature. Of course, she's not very pleased wth humans these days. Have you tried doing a snow dance? Thursday is Snowflake Bentley's Birthday. I suggest throwing a party. Couldn't hurt!"
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62. jerseycityjoan
11:06 PM GMT on February 07, 2017
Snow on its way for many of us tomorrow night into Thursday.

I hope we seem some activity here, too.

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61. listenerVT
6:54 AM GMT on February 03, 2017
Thanks, P. Great photos! I really like the look of that snow path.

We picked up a couple inches of snow this evening. We'll take whatever we can get. As you noted, Burlington, and the whole area, has had it hard this season. We love our snow and need the precip.

As usual, I spent Candlemas (aka Groundhog Day) hand-dipping candles.

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60. Pcroton
10:27 PM GMT on February 01, 2017
Good Evening. Here's a look at January 2017 across the region. Very warm - winner: Burlington VT. Generally wet across the region as you'll note. Snowfall not too great. MidATL/I95 generally on target. Interior really REALLY lacking. Winner? Providence Rhode Island. Other things you'll note as you look it over.




Had about 3.5" of snow for our cumulative light event (you'll get it, if you've been following twitter)







Not much to discuss for this week. Minor event for southern Virginia - North Carolina at the end of the week with some light snow possible across our zonal front.

Sunday-Monday still looks to be a fast mover, nothing there to throw on the breaks, and some form of a light to moderate rain/snow (depending on latitude) event drives through the region.

Then more warmth, rainfall cutter - with initial interior snows in about a week - before mix and rain - and some question if the northern most sections change over or if the system hits a northern limit then slips east - as some have done this year so far.

All in all - nothing headline to note - and it does not appear we'll be seeing anything overly unusual the next couple weeks. Ya know where to find me and the daily & hourly updates. https://twitter.com/crankywxguy
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59. NJTom
7:59 PM GMT on February 01, 2017
A frequent but not constant play this winter: mild midweek, frigid weekend. Repeat the pattern next week from the looks of it. Nice long walk in store this evening, at least.

Is this an artifact of a bygone era or do doctors still take Wednesdays off? If so, they really hit the jackpot this winter!
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58. originalLIT
3:39 PM GMT on February 01, 2017
Got about 2" here in Stamford CT. About as expected.
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57. NJTom
3:59 PM GMT on January 31, 2017
We're due for about an inch, maybe a little more. At that volume, and In a state where some guys get $5 per foot (distance, not depth) to clear a driveway or private street, you can bet our mighty defensive armada is gearing up for a long night of lucrative battle with the Arctic invasion. Thousands of municipal trucks are already belching diesel fumes in their hangers, loaded with acres of unused salt. Tens of thousands of independent pickup owners are testing their yellow emergency lights and winches, a savage gleam in their eyes. Hundreds of thousands of day laborers are lining up at the usual mobilization points, gear in hand. With so little snow this year, you can bet we're in for an overnight symphony of roaring engines accompanied by plow blades and shovels scraping the same patch of cleaned ground over and over again until dawn (which, by the way, is coming earlier and earlier - have you noticed???)
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56. listenerVT
3:03 AM GMT on January 31, 2017
Any snow is crusted over into ice here now. Bleh.
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55. tlawson48
4:56 PM GMT on January 30, 2017
I too have backed off on the blogs, comments, etc. I check P's twitter feed several times a day, but I just don't have the energy to argue with some of the idiots on the wunderground blogs anymore. Reality will always bitch slap anyone trying to create their own alternative universe. ALWAYS. As such, I no longer feel the need to talk to a brick wall.
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